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sydneydrift
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Having a 1967 Mustang Fastback would be great. I've been dreaming of owning one since I was a teenager. Its hard to find an old and restorable one here in Australia. Starting to get brand new panels, etc. would be a great risk, but thats what I did Sad . I was advised to contact an automobile engineer before starting my project. My aim was to verify if I can build one from scratch using new shell. I've been reading articles about ICV ( Individually Constructed Vehicle ) and I'm not certain if building a Mustang from scratch is included on this scheme. I have emailed one engineer and was advised to see him personally because he said that it gonna be a long consultation and it gonna cost me 100 dollars an hour plus GST. He didnt say anything about my inquiry ( I'm willing to pay him though )
My hope in building one starts to fall apart when I consulted a mechanic friend of mine ( who's restoring a 67 Holden Monaro ) He said that installing an old engine ( carb etc.) into a new shell is not permitted by law ( and theres no way that I can get a VIN and register it ) because it is considered as a new car and should meet modern standards Question . I'm lost now! Sad


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Do not loose the dream. It can happen you just need to use a proper car as the base. Then you can change the bulk of the panels if required. For example here is a rough example but it could work out.

cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotor...33816c3d16

or a more economic start would be a base car with parts cars

cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotor...27d1b37d73

or something that has been mostly done for you which appears less expensive than the Dyncon shell

cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotor...3a7ffa9b35

You would need to double check everything to make sure it is as expected.
In any case, it is do able. As long as you have the money, time and patience. All of which can be in short supply.

Note: Cost wise it would be best of you had 40k+ and simply purchase an original car complete and ready.


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As far as I'm aware, a new shell (i.e. Dynacorn) will have to meet all current ADR's for new vehicles in Aust = massive pain in the arse.
Buy a cheap dunger & do it up will be the go if your willing to part with bucks.


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donoauto wrote
As far as I'm aware, a new shell (i.e. Dynacorn) will have to meet all current ADR's for new vehicles in Aust = massive pain in the arse.
Buy a cheap dunger & do it up will be the go if your willing to part with bucks.


Yep Coshy from the morning show had one built and its got a crate injected, LSX GM engine it for that reasoon, engine has to be less then 10years old , ie in a production car in the last 10 years. I have a mate doing a GT40 he is also useing an LSX engine.


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Save your money and don't bother going to see the engineer.
As the others have stated, ICV is not the way to go. They now have to meet current regulations.

These cars are not cheap no matter which way you go, but if you have time and patience, buy a shitter and fix it up slowly.

What's your initial budget?


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sydneydrift wrote
Its hard to find an old and restorable one here in Australia.


Import one.

sydneydrift wrote
Starting to get brand new panels, etc. would be a great risk, but thats what I did Sad .


So did you get new panels or a new shell?

If you've already bought a new shell I recall discussion that you could register an old Mustang using that shell as a panel repair?

You can't just cut out the VIN and rebirth it but the talk was that you can cut out a section of the old car and basically attach the shell to it, I can't see much difference but I'm sure others here can add to this.

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Theres a vert on Evilbay that would be a great donor for all the parts you need


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scedd wrote
Theres a vert on Evilbay that would be a great donor for all the parts you need


It doesn't have a VIN so just as useless to him.

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sydneydrift
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Thanks for your input guys, Like its not as easy as I've seen on other American forums and websites on how they're building/restoring Mustangs Sad . You're right hybrid :), its better to save my money to get a shitter and fix it up slowly, then I dont have to worry about ICV and getting a new VIN. Cheers


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Actually very similar laws apply in the US. It is just that they are not enforced like they are here as most states in the US do not have a rego inspection.


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