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I'm digging around for a timing pointer for my Windsor engine, but it seems theres at least a couple of types out there.

Some 10 o'clock ones and some 11 o'clock ones.

Does anyone know what we need for those old dogs?
I changed the timing cover on my engine after I snapped off a sump bolt, so I hope that doesn't screw with me. The new timing cover seems to have provision for a crank angle sensor.

How does the timing pointer mount as standard?
Does anyone have any pics?

I'm going to try and find TDC on the weekend to see if I can see the approximate spot where the pointer should be.

Thanks.


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The timing cover with the provision for the sensor, has the timing pointer on that side, around the sensor bracket.
The Mustangs have the pointer on the opposite side, so you will need to re-mark the balancer to suit whatever pointer you end up using.


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this is what is what my 289 has Jeff....



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Other early covers have a "knob" at about the same spot.

I had to fit the late style pointer (still with an early cover) and had to mark out the balancer from scratch.


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Thanks guys... I'll check the timing cover. There is a chance that the balancer is already to suit the later timing cover anyway as it's new.


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I would think the timing marks on the balancer would correspond with the early/late balance weights.


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That's the thing though - when the engine was balanced, they had to pretty much machine the weight off the flywheel down to almost nothing - so I wonder if the the balancer was a later model one.

Did the older engines have more or less weight?


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Older had less.


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Ok, so the flywheel must have been for a later one then.
Damn Damn Damn... looks like I'm going to have to re-mark the balancer if I have to put the pointer on the other side.

Although.. looking at bages pic. I'm pretty sure the crank angle sensor thingy is on the left side of the engine, not the fuel pump side. And it still had a fuel pump hole, so maybe it's an aftermarket early model with provision for crank sensor.


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Hey Jeff

My timing pointer was on the other side. Motor came out of a 65 but I think it is a 71 or onwards 302 block not the 289 original, (not sure if there is actually any difference in the block or if it is just the heads that are different?) So I would say it depends on what timing cover you have as to what pointer you can use.

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Hmmm.. it just bolts on with the timing cover, so surely I should be able to fit one of those, even with the crank angle sensor thingy.
I'll try and remember to have a look tonight, thanks.


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hybrid wrote
Hmmm.. it just bolts on with the timing cover, so surely I should be able to fit one of those, even with the crank angle sensor thingy.
I'll try and remember to have a look tonight, thanks.


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Will do Kerry.
I was going to buy an aftermarket one, but if the original will fit, that will do me.
I'll get a look at the engine and work out what I need.


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Ok, I think I'm going to have to make my own pointer.

I've got a couple of issues. First one is that the crank angle sensor mount is in the way of a standard pointer. Second is... how the hell do you read your timing with the water pump there?! I used some welding wire to find approximate TDC, and it looks like the marks are going to be right under the pump.



Ok maybe 3 issues... the sump gasket is probably going to leak Laughing


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Ok, I think I'm going to have to make my own pointer.


Ok maybe 3 issues... the sump gasket is probably going to leak Laughing


Maybe 4 issues if you don't remove that ratchet before starting. Poke

My motor has a home made pointer on that side. I'll grab a pic of it on the weekend if you want, but I don't really like the look of it as from memory it is only held by one bolt. Not sure how you realign it if it comes loose or you remove it.
I don't have the water pump on as yet but was going to get it with the outlet on the other side. They also cut the crank angle sensor bracket off the timing cover.


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