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Gazza51
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I'll be having an AOD box fitted in my '65 sometime in the new year, Done some reading and suggests changing the gear selector lever for a '67. I have the cruise-o-matic selector at the moment, what would be difference ? Would it just be the position label P-R-N-2-1 or is the lever different ?


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I'm pretty certain the levers are the same, it's just the bezel that's different.


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They can't be too different... they're all shifting the same gearboxes.


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hybrid wrote
They can't be too different... they're all shifting the same gearboxes.


Not quite, C4 and AOD have different shift patterns.


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I'm talking about 65 vs 67.
Neither of those shifted the AOD.. both models shifted the same gearboxes, so I can't see why someone would suggest swapping shifters between them.

Considering I have an AOD in mine (and built it myself), I'm well aware of the shift pattern!


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hybrid wrote
I'm talking about 65 vs 67.
Neither of those shifted the AOD.. both models shifted the same gearboxes, so I can't see why someone would suggest swapping shifters between them.

Considering I have an AOD in mine (and built it myself), I'm well aware of the shift pattern!


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Quote from the above article....

"If you're going to use a stock '65-'73 Mustang automatic shifter, turn the shifter lever 180-degrees to the 12 o'clock position as shown. Otherwise, your shift pattern with a stock shifter will be backwards. Also, use a '67-'68 shifter in '65-'66 Mustang. Do not use the Dual-Range (big dot/little dot) shifter."

I have the Dual-Range (big dot/little dot shifter)


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Hi,
I don't want to hijack the thread but I have just had my cruise-o-matic rebuilt and in the process the valve body has been replaced with a standard C4 shift pattern (D-2-L) which I am happy with.

While I can use the standard cruise-o-matic bezel I would like to fit the D-2-L bezel. Is there one available? Do I need to use a later shifter?

My '66 has a centre console so the bezel is flat.

Thanks for any help, and Darryl I forgot to ask about this on Saturday, too much going on.

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1966stang wrote
Hi,
I don't want to hijack the thread but I have just had my cruise-o-matic rebuilt and in the process the valve body has been replaced with a standard C4 shift pattern (D-2-L) which I am happy with.

While I can use the standard cruise-o-matic bezel I would like to fit the D-2-L bezel. Is there one available? Do I need to use a later shifter?

My '66 has a centre console so the bezel is flat.

Thanks for any help, and Darryl I forgot to ask about this on Saturday, too much going on.

Greg


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Unfortunately Greg, the 67 console bezel is completely different and won't fit, even if you could find one in good condition. The "snow drive" star on the bezel won't affect the operation of the transmission as the shifter bases are the same as the 67/8 non console bases.


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They do vary from '65 to '67, as the early models, if you look at the shifter inside the car, you actually select 'drive' where most later autos are in 2nd. In the early models, it's represented by circles and the circle in the 2nd position, is larger than the one in the 3rd position.

In '67, D was in the 3rd position, as we're mostly used to.

Hope that mumbo jumbo makes sense. Pics below should help.

Early style: retrofordparts.com/med...9216_o.jpg

67 style: www.metromusclecars.co...r-dial.jpg

Here's an article from Mustang Monthly which may help.

www.mustangmonthly.com...ewall.html

In the article, it says: If you're going to use a stock '65-'73 Mustang automatic shifter, turn the shifter lever 180-degrees to the 12 o'clock position as shown. Otherwise, your shift pattern with a stock shifter will be backwards. Also, use a '67-'68 shifter in '65-'66 Mustang. Do not use the Dual-Range (big dot/little dot) shifter.


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I've fitted several AOD's to early stangs and the easiest way is to rotate the shift lever on the AOD to the vertical position. Easy to do before fitting it. You just need to remove the pan to get to the shifter nut.


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I've never done one. Do they fit in the tunnel ok on the early 65/66 models?


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Yeah it's tight but they do fit.


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There's bit more to it Shaun. You need to purchase a rear mount support and mount as well as an adjustable gear linkage as the shift lever on the AOD is a different ratio than a C4. Not forgetting the TV cable. Depending on which carby you use, you may need to purchase a TV cable adapter as well. All these items are readily available and without them installation is a PITA.


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Also, you will need a 28oz 64T driveplate and an engine plate from a 351.

The swap can be expensive but cheaper than a T5 install.


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IIRC correctly,
you do not need to change out the Flex plate, but merely have it drilled 11 inch PDC to accept the AOD's larger diameter mounting.


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