- -
UserInfo

Welcome Anonymous




Membership:
Latest: autoloverzz
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 914

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 0
Bots: 7
Total: 7
Who Is Where:
 Bots:
01. Forums
02. CPGNuCalendar
03. Statistics
04. Forums
05. Home
06. Login
07. Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
We have received
36039234
page views since
July 27, 2010

Hits New Today: 2841
Hits New Yesterday: 31000

Server Time
25 April 2018 02:15:46 AEST (GMT +10)
Mustang Technical Discussion > Pre 1973 > front end squeak/squark > Community Forums > Mustang Forum Australia - Mustang Tech

New Posts β€’ Last 24hrs β€’ Unanswered
Forum Index > Pre 1973

front end squeak/squark Reply to topic

Go to page 1, 2 Next
Author Message
jbrucem1
Senior Mustang

Offline
Joined: Aug 15, 2010
Posts: 268
Location: northern vic

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


The front end in the stang has an extremely annoying squeek every time the front end goes up and down.the only nolathane rubbers I have are sway bar insulators and they are well greased. I think the sound is coming from the area around upper control arm/spring seat. They have no grease nipples but am sure this is the culprit. any ideas??
cheers,
jack


View user's profile
boofhead
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Nov 02, 2010
Posts: 4505
Location: Brisbane

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


Often the upper arm bushes. Normally have a right angle grease nipple though I had one car where they cut holes in the shock towers to allow access to straight nipples. I fixed that issue (among others).


I will someday think of something clever to say.

View user's profile
jbrucem1
Senior Mustang

Offline
Joined: Aug 15, 2010
Posts: 268
Location: northern vic

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


yeh i have the grease nipples for the upper arm bushes, its the spring seat that i think is more the problem. the lower rubber insulator that sits on the outer and inner of spring may also be an issue, with the inner rubber insulator missing


View user's profile
jbrucem1
Senior Mustang

Offline
Joined: Aug 15, 2010
Posts: 268
Location: northern vic

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž




View user's profile
scott66stang
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Jul 27, 2010
Posts: 4706
Location: Baldivis WA

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


99% sure its the upper swing arm bushes that need greasing up. All the old falcons up to XD squeaked untill they put rubber bushes in there. I used to soak them in crc to tempory get rid of the squeak in my XT until i finally put in grease nipples.


Converting Rust to Something Drivable

66 Fastback Fairstang Project www.mustangtech.com.au...art=0.html
67 convertibuild project www.mustangtech.com.au...art=0.html
Thought Collecting Couch www.mustangtech.com.au...=1739.html
Caddy Wacked www.mustangtech.com.au...art=0.html

View user's profile
Nuts
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Jul 31, 2010
Posts: 4252
Location: Can someone send me some of that "Clean" coal for my furnace. My wood has frozen..

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


I'm with Scott, more than likely the top bushes.


My Motto - Don't get Caught! If you do, Blame Someone Else!

MUSTANG - Fantastic Not Plastic

View user's profileSend e-mail
IGALOP
Mustang Star

Offline
Joined: Nov 10, 2010
Posts: 518
Location: Sale/Longford Vic.

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


Def upper arm squeak. Drown it with whatever you can get into it......preferably a good grease.


Selling the Mustang story to all those who will listen!
There are many listening in Gippsland.

View user's profile
ozbilt
Site Admin

Offline
Joined: Jul 27, 2010
Posts: 10416
Location: Now at the Duggo Ranch

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


Take the front shocks out & see if it still squeaks. It is more likely the shocks as they are constantly in bind as they do not come up in the center & have to be forced to bolt them up. It is the shaft against the seal in the shock that squeaks.

Another even quicker method is to squirt some WD40 on the shaft while they are still fitted as it will tell you if it is that spot, same as the spring perch, if WD40 stops the squeak, then it is there. Put the straw on the can so you can direct the application.


Kerry

"Thank you Boofhead for the wonderful memories"

View user's profile
IGALOP
Mustang Star

Offline
Joined: Nov 10, 2010
Posts: 518
Location: Sale/Longford Vic.

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


Agree with that possibility Kerry. My 67 shocks started squeaking on the Sunday morning of the Ballarat Nats a couple of years ago.
A can of WD40 soon fixed that.
Still put my moolah on the upper arm being more noisy in this case though!
Could be both contributing!


Selling the Mustang story to all those who will listen!
There are many listening in Gippsland.

View user's profile
ozbilt
Site Admin

Offline
Joined: Jul 27, 2010
Posts: 10416
Location: Now at the Duggo Ranch

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


jbrucem1 wrote


You should have a grease fitting on both sides as the pic you posted depicts.

Taking the shocks out will confirm the location of the squeak. You can then get someone to bounce the front end while you watch the suspension & listen. If it is coming from the spring perch, then replace it.

However note the following.....

Your suspension movement on the front end with normal motoring is around 40mm of travel (say 20mm each way from center). The spring perch is in the approx center of the top A arm. It's movement is probably around 5-7mm in rotation & if the rubber bush is not flogged out (leaving metal to metal contact) then it is hardly likely to be the squeak.

However the shock rod is going at least half the movement of the suspension (IE; 20mm in normal travel) & is always moving in that area promoting further polishing of the shaft & seal in that spot. I have replaced countless Ford/Mustang front shocks because of this issue. They are constantly in "bind" as when you bolt them up you have to push the top to get it to line up with the top shock mount.

The big fix is to fit a mono ball to the spring perch so it centers the spring/shock. Also a shock with a mono ball at each end solves the issue as well. But that is modifying, so will not work on a car that is shown as stock.


Kerry

"Thank you Boofhead for the wonderful memories"

View user's profile
m67gl
Senior Mustang

Offline
Joined: Aug 10, 2010
Posts: 180
Location: Northern Rivers

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


mine had a squeaky front end, every time it moved up and down. Was told to squirt some of the milky silicon based tyre shine around the rubber bushings. No squeaks since then. Could be something to try.


View user's profile
donoauto
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Jul 27, 2010
Posts: 2348
Location: Rippin' a skid

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


I went all out & decided to replace both upper & lower control arms & new spring perches. Every now & again , my RH spring perch has a little squeak (even though it is brand new) but usually only after washing or a driving through a little rain.


(PRAYER) Oh thank you Wild Turkey American Honey & Cola in those small thin bottles, for giving me the strength to act like a half wit, and say stupid things at inappropriate times, semi-anonymously, on a public forum.
Amen.

View user's profilePhoto Gallery
boofhead
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Nov 02, 2010
Posts: 4505
Location: Brisbane

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


Kerry's point that the Shock being a possible cause is a good point.
They do have sideways load and hence some side rubbing on the shaft (something I never liked but simply accepted as the way it is) is a likely candidate - advantage is it is easy to test it. If it is the spring perch then definitely replace with a new one.


I will someday think of something clever to say.

View user's profile
jbrucem1
Senior Mustang

Offline
Joined: Aug 15, 2010
Posts: 268
Location: northern vic

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


relief!!
fitted rear grease nipples and greased, still squeek. undid shocks to rukle that out, ruled out..
took weight off front end, started going nuts with wd40 on LHS and regreased while weight off.

squeek gone from LHS!!!

weight off RHS and re-greased, squeek gone.

The solution was better greasing technique/sufficient grease..
Thanks to all for advice!! all front end is new and thus must have just needed more grease


View user's profile
66ROX
Junior Mustang

Offline
Joined: Nov 02, 2010
Posts: 48
Location: Burpengary

0 πŸ‘ / 0 πŸ‘Ž


Great to hear problem solved. I hate chasing squeaks.
I was chasing a front end squeak in mine which would only appear whilst driving. Took me two weeks to find it. Turned out to be the bonnet locking pin and latch not having any grease. Still shaking my head on that one.


View user's profileSend e-mail
All times are Australia/Sydney
Go to page 1, 2 Next


Jump to:

TopPostersToday
   jbb 
 Posts: 
 2 

   Pinto-Pete 
 Posts: 
 1 

   Astro 
 Posts: 
 1 

   xpconnor 
 Posts: 
 1 

   ants 
 Posts: 
 1 

   Dwayne 
 Posts: 
 1 

LatestForumPosts
Last 10 Forum Messages

Project Lil Blue Coupe
Last post by Dwayne in Mustang Projects on Apr 24, 2018 21:26:01

Parts for sale
Last post by jbb in Other Parts for Sale on Apr 24, 2018 21:23:04

Door glass seal
Last post by jbb in General Tech Advice on Apr 24, 2018 21:21:05

Husky's 65 Restomod
Last post by ants in Mustang Projects on Apr 24, 2018 21:00:10

Project Brandy
Last post by nassi in Mustang Projects on Apr 23, 2018 22:01:10

alternator size
Last post by lifeis4living in Pre 1973 on Apr 21, 2018 16:24:52

NSW: Rear brake blinker configuration 65-66 Mustang
Last post by Husky65 in Pre 1973 on Apr 21, 2018 08:16:25

Edz 66 Convertible
Last post by hybrid in Mustang Projects on Apr 20, 2018 10:29:09

2020 Shelby GT500 spy shots
Last post by hybrid in 2015 onward on Apr 20, 2018 08:08:11

Project Pheonix
Last post by nassi in Mustang Projects on Apr 19, 2018 21:43:08