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Tomorrow I'm planning to buy all the new ball joints etc for my front end as I get ready to take the car off the rotisserie.
I got my suspension/exhaust mate to send me a list of pedders parts for 64-70 Mustangs, but some of the parts appear to be doubled up, so I'm not sure which part numbers to order. So who can help my identify the parts in this pic?
Also, am I forgetting anything else consumable that I should be replacing in the front end? I've already got all the bushes in urethane.
I've purposely left this image bigger than normal so its clear to see.
Once I'm sure all the descriptions and part numbers are right, I will create a page in the Tech Shop for it.


Description and Pedders Part number:
1) Tie Rod End/Outer PTE184L
2) Tie Rod Sleeve (not listed)
3) Tie Rod End Inner L/H?
4) Tie Rod End Inner R/H?
5) ?
6) Tie Rod Sleeve (not listed)
7) Tie Rod End/Outer R/H

Here is the full parts list from pedders.
As you can see.. the items aren't described very well, so its hard to tell what is what.

Ford
Mustang
1964-1970
Coupe & Convertible

*
Front Shocks
9018 GSR9018 Gas Sports Ryder.
9017 GSR9017 Gas Sports Ryder
*
Front Spring Low
2125R Sports Ryder Coil Spring RH
2125L Sports Ryder Coil Spring LH
6400R 6400R Pedders Touring Spring
6400L 6400L Pedders Touring Spring
*
Front Alignment Products
CP31 CP31 Camber Pins 12.5mm-2pk
*
Front Sway Bar
BFF5 Swaybar-heavy duty
BFFT1 Swaybar-heavy duty
*
Rear Sway Bar
BFR1 Swaybar-heavy duty
*
Front Sway Bar Links & Bushes
EP950 Urethane Swaybar_Link Bush
EPB18 Urethane SwayBar_D Bush
EPB19 Urethane SwayBar_D Bush
4246 4246 Sway Bar 'd' Bracket
*
Lower Ball Joint
PBJ39 Pedders Ball Joint
PBJ74 Pedders Ball Joint
PBJ75RK Pedders Ball Joint
*
Upper Ball Joint
PBJ34E Pedders Ball Joint
PBJ94E Pedders Ball Joint
*
Outer Tie Rod End
PTE163R Pedders Tie_Rod End
PTE184L Pedders Tie_Rod End
PTE391R Pedders Tie_Rod End
PTE420R Pedders Tie_Rod End
PTA3310 Pedders Kit_Chassis Part
*
Inner Tie Rod End
PTE163L Pedders Tie_Rod End
*
Radius Rod Bush
EP1016/39 Urethane Radius_Rod Bush
P1069/70 Rubber Radius_Rod Bush(Pkt2)
EP1069/70 Urethane Radius_Rod Bush
*
Upper Inner Bush
PSX1118A Pedders Kit_Chassis Part
EP6143 Urethane Control_Arm Bush
*
Lower Inner Bush
EP6144 Urethane Control_Arm Bush
6-504 Control Arm Bush
*
Rear Shock
3305 3305 Touring Black Gas Shock
8005 8005 Comfort Gas Shock
1075 SR1075 SPORTS RYDER
9075 GSR9075 Gas Sports Ryder
6005 6005 Air Shock
4300 4300 Air Shock Fitting Kit
*
Rear Sway Bar
429007-18 *Pedders Swaybar
BFR1 Swaybar-heavy duty
BFR37 Swaybar-heavy duty
*
Rear Eye Bushes / Kits
EP229 Urethane Leaf_Spring Bush
5812 5812 Pedders Rubber Bush(Pkt2)
*
Rear Shackle Bushes / Kits
EP8342 Urethane Leaf_Spring Bush
EP233 Urethane Leaf_Spring Bush
EP8165 Urethane Leaf_Spring Bush


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Hi Jeff,

Number 5 is the pitman arm.

See if he has complete control arms with the bushes and ball joints already fitted, this will make it alot easier to put together.

Cheers

Gary


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Sorry ...... It is the idler arm......Sorry


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#5 is the "idler arm", the pitman arm is not shown on your picture.
cheers


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# 5 is an "idler arm".

Agree if you can get them complete go for it.

As for the urethane.... not a big fan of it, especially on the caster bars. The stuff splits under load.

I had goofed also & had to edit this. Pitman arm is on the steering box. Long day Gary, we spent too long talking! Shrug


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mustangpanels wrote
Sorry ...... It is the idler arm......Sorry


snap Cheers


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ozbilt wrote
# 5 is an "idler arm".

Agree if you can get them complete go for it.

As for the urethane.... not a big fan of it, especially on the caster bars. The stuff splits under load.

I had goofed also & had to edit this. Pitman arm is on the steering box. Long day Gary, we spent too long talking! Shrug


Hi Kerry

As I hit the send button I knew what I had done.

It been a long week!!!!!!!


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[quote="ozbilt"]# 5 is an "idler arm".



As for the urethane.... not a big fan of it, especially on the caster bars. The stuff splits under load.





I agree with Kerry on this one.
When I had my workshop there were few taxis towed in, due to
broken caster bars all because the urethane bushes were
too hard.............


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Thanks fellas.. a night at the pub with my old man also gave the answer to #5.
I think I'm going to just tell pedders to give me one of everything that's consumable.

I have already bought new upper and lower arms, but the upper ball joints don't have the grease nipple near the hole in the arm where they should be, so I'm looking to replace those. I'll leave the lowers alone.


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replace your leaf springs too - 40 years of use makes them a bit saggy...


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I've just cleaned them up and painted them, coz I'm wondering if saggy is a bad thing considering I'm looking to lower it from standard.

I thought I might see how it is first.. coz it's a very easy job to change them afterwards.. as opposed to the front steering components.
They don't look too low here either:


I noticed pedders sell lower springs as well, but I think I will go for the 1inch lower king springs that everyone talks about.


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Just don't put any Nolethane in it. Does it really need all new tie rods, the original are good quality, just cause they are 40 years old doen't mean they are stuffed, if they are not loose why change them? you can buy boots for them. I have set of 67 ones that came off my car which are like new. Idler arms do flog out. Factory tierod are often better than what you can buy as aftermarket that's for sure.


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Not sure if it needs it and don't care. They're all being replaced so I know they are new. I'll soon find out if pedders stuff is no good!

It's not as though replacing it all is a large amount of money. I'm getting this stuff at cost price, so might as well do it. $600 to replace everything including front springs and 4 shocks.


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Jeff.
Did the same thing with my 67 coupe, replaced the lot, was lucky the previous owner had just spent a heap of bucks replacing the ram and valves and steering lines. So I replaced the rest, and didn't I notice the difference!!!!, Now the brakes are a different story.


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67 C Code coupe
97 SN-95 Convertible

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I won't notice a difference either because I didn't drive the car previously Laughing


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