- -
UserInfo

Welcome Anonymous




Membership:
Latest: v8ford70
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 890

People Online:
Members: 3
Visitors: 4
Bots: 10
Total: 17
Who Is Where:
Members:
69BossForums
Visitors:
01. Forums
02. Forums
03. News
04. Forums
 Bots:
01. Forums
02. Forums
03. Forums
04. Login
05. Forums
06. Forums
07. Content
08. Forums
09. Forums
10. Home
Hidden: 2
Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
We have received
33639947
page views since
July 27, 2010

Hits New Today: 12637
Hits New Yesterday: 17268

Server Time
17 December 2017 19:02:07 AEDT (GMT +11)
Mustang Technical Discussion > Pre 1973 > Power steering control valve removal > Community Forums > Mustang Forum Australia - Mustang Tech

View posts since last visitView posts last 24 hoursView unanswered posts
Forum Index > Pre 1973

Power steering control valve removal Reply to topic

Go to page 1, 2 Next
Author Message
hybrid
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Jul 27, 2010
Posts: 8421

0 👍 / 0 👎


Looks like my control valve is very worn around the joint. There is probably 1mm of play there, and the bush inside looks very worn.

I was thinking of just replacing the whole thing, but cant see how it comes out. I notice there is a washer/nut on the end of the small shaft, but even if I undo that, I still don't see how the tapered ball joint can come out.

Can anyone shed any light?


View user's profilePhoto Gallery
jusTANG
PatCH the Platypus

Offline
Joined: Jul 31, 2010
Posts: 2060
Location: Canberra, ACT

0 👍 / 0 👎




best i can do


Cheers,
j

View user's profileSend e-mail
Nuts
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Jul 31, 2010
Posts: 4201
Location: Can someone send me some of that "Clean" coal for my furnace. My wood has frozen..

0 👍 / 0 👎


There is supposed to be side to side play in the ball stud. This is what actuates the power assist. If there is lateral play replace the ball and socket. While you're at it put a seal kit in as well. Overhauls kits are available from Capital Classics. Full details on rebuilding it are in the 65 and 66 workshop manual. It's not hard to do. If in doubt get someone that has done it before to show you.


My Motto - Don't get Caught! If you do, Blame Someone Else!

MUSTANG - Fantastic Not Plastic

View user's profileSend e-mail
hybrid
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Jul 27, 2010
Posts: 8421

0 👍 / 0 👎


Thanks fellas.
It's definitely the socket that's worn.
Also the clamp is missing from mine.

I'll try and get it out and have a better look at it, but I'm swaying towards replacing the whole lot at the moment. I don't want to risk leaks. Apparently these are really bad for it?


View user's profilePhoto Gallery
Nuts
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Jul 31, 2010
Posts: 4201
Location: Can someone send me some of that "Clean" coal for my furnace. My wood has frozen..

0 👍 / 0 👎


65/6 don't have a clamp.


My Motto - Don't get Caught! If you do, Blame Someone Else!

MUSTANG - Fantastic Not Plastic

View user's profileSend e-mail
LEEH69
Mustang Star

Offline
Joined: Aug 08, 2010
Posts: 419
Location: Brisbane, Southside

0 👍 / 0 👎


Hybrid
Had trouble with mine also, looked at doing it myself but was told if the valve parts weren't repaired and replaced in the exact position the car will track badly and no wheel alignment will fix it, I had the control valve rebuilt buy a power steering mob for just over $200.
not sure what the rebuild kit would cost but it took them a morning where it would probably have taken me the whole day.
good luck which ever way you go


View user's profilePhoto Gallery
jbrucem1
Senior Mustang

Offline
Joined: Aug 15, 2010
Posts: 268
Location: northern vic

0 👍 / 0 👎


have heard horrible repair stories of people diy..i would take it to a shop and let them deal with it..if u diy you need a surgically clean work area, patience and a few cold beers..and then it will probably still leak
you will need a puller to remove the control valve from the box, specific ford tool # but u can make your own


View user's profile
hybrid
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Jul 27, 2010
Posts: 8421

0 👍 / 0 👎


Sounds like even more reason to replace with new. They aren't cheap though Sad

Anyone know anyone in Sydney that can rebuild?


View user's profilePhoto Gallery
Ausjacko
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Aug 03, 2010
Posts: 2096
Location: Canberra

0 👍 / 0 👎


Hi Hybrid
I have uploaded a couple of photos of my control valve. I put a new kit in the valve ($37) and bought a ram boot ($20). The hardest part was getting the bloody thing off the steering box. DON NOT use a pickle fork! I purchased a really neat tie rod remover for $20 and it worked fine. This tool was really neat (see link www.brandsplace.com/02...900.html). You tighten the bolt and load the threaded end of the ball stud and then give the end of the tool a 'love tap' with the hammer and she popped out. My previous attempts (about 2 hours worth) were otherwise embarrassing and will never to be revealed while sober.
A couple of tips:
-The trailing arm has a rolled pin stopping it from rotating in the valve sleeve- take this out before you try and unscrew the arm.
- Mark the trailing arm where it meets the valve sleeve or count the number of turns to get it out. Helps get the wheel alignment nearly right when you reinstall.
-The exploded view from Justang came in very handy fixing an issue when I reinstalled. When jacked up and the engine going, the front wheels would 'creep' to the right. Tightening or loosening the 'adjusting nut' gives you some adjustment to correct this. As it turned out, I was missing the small washer on the adjusting nut end of my valve. I made a small washer and reinstalled and this gave me just the right amount of adjustment to pull the valve into its neutral position.
Rego guys thought I had purchased a new control valve and passed with flying colours.
Cheers
Ian



OK, how do you get these images working? Jacko


'68 J-code GT Fastback
'67 S-code GT coupe, 'Pink Bitz' formerly known as 'Hookin' up a brother'
'69 M_____ GTS Fastback 'Blasted'

Last edited by Ausjacko on Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:04 pm; edited 1 time in total

View user's profilePhoto Gallery
hybrid
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Jul 27, 2010
Posts: 8421

0 👍 / 0 👎


Jacko, take the "=512x384" out of the img tags. That doesn't work in this forum.

No need for the tool... my steering is all out of the car and in peices.
So you put the kit through yourself. Was it easy enough?


View user's profilePhoto Gallery
Ausjacko
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Aug 03, 2010
Posts: 2096
Location: Canberra

0 👍 / 0 👎


Thanks Hybrid
Yes, put the kit through myself. Pretty easy once the bloody thing was out- and the washer went back in (which I did with it on the car). Nut gave me some advice re the adjustment nut as I described.
BTW, the pipe at the bottom of the frame in the 'after' photo was made by the previous owner. H had it made to take a braided line as his wife (who told me the story) was sick of the Hooker super comp headers melting the standard rubber hose and the steering becoming 'heavy'
Cheers
Jacko


'68 J-code GT Fastback
'67 S-code GT coupe, 'Pink Bitz' formerly known as 'Hookin' up a brother'
'69 M_____ GTS Fastback 'Blasted'

View user's profilePhoto Gallery
jusTANG
PatCH the Platypus

Offline
Joined: Jul 31, 2010
Posts: 2060
Location: Canberra, ACT

0 👍 / 0 👎


LEEH69 wrote
Hybrid
Had trouble with mine also, looked at doing it myself but was told if the valve parts weren't repaired and replaced in the exact position the car will track badly and no wheel alignment will fix it, I had the control valve rebuilt buy a power steering mob for just over $200.
not sure what the rebuild kit would cost but it took them a morning where it would probably have taken me the whole day.
good luck which ever way you go


was told the same but then a local guy helped me out (thanks Nuts) after a couple of goes all was good and easy......best $200 i saved Thumbs Up


Cheers,
j

View user's profileSend e-mail
hybrid
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Jul 27, 2010
Posts: 8421

0 👍 / 0 👎


Ian/Jacko, where did you get hold of the valve kit?

$37 is cheaper than what I can see in the states Shocked


View user's profilePhoto Gallery
ozbilt
Site Admin

Offline
Joined: Jul 27, 2010
Posts: 10325
Location: Now at the Duggo Ranch

0 👍 / 0 👎


Sounds like a description or a copy of what j put on the "other" site to go in the technical section here.


Kerry

It is easier to get older than it it is to get wiser

View user's profile
Ausjacko
Mustang King

Offline
Joined: Aug 03, 2010
Posts: 2096
Location: Canberra

0 👍 / 0 👎


Whoops, my bad.
The cost of the "P/S valve ball stud rebuild kit (C2AZ-3A533-A)" was $90.91. Sorry for the confusion. Here are the other bits I used:
Power steering ram boot C5ZZ-3A540-B 19.09
Power steering boot seal 36.37
I think I got these pieces from Griffs or Capital Classics.

I keep a spreadsheet of all the bits I buy but did not scan down far enough.

Kerry, you have a better memory than me. I posted something similar, with less detail, when Justang was having similar issues. The other useful tips I included there were:
Good quality tube nuts spanners are a must.
Power steering fluid in your eye is not good.

Cheers
Ian


'68 J-code GT Fastback
'67 S-code GT coupe, 'Pink Bitz' formerly known as 'Hookin' up a brother'
'69 M_____ GTS Fastback 'Blasted'

View user's profilePhoto Gallery
All times are Australia/Sydney
Go to page 1, 2 Next


Jump to:

TopPostersToday
   rkmiller73 
 Posts: 
 2 

   66STNG 
 Posts: 
 2 

   Husky65 
 Posts: 
 2 

   Nuts 
 Posts: 
 1 

   cage 
 Posts: 
 1 

   StephenSLR 
 Posts: 
 1 

ComingEvents
Mon Dec 25, 2017
Event Christmas Day
 
LatestForumPosts
Last 10 Forum Messages

C4 automatic - replace with AOD or 5 speed manual
Last post by Dwayne in Pre 1973 on Dec 17, 2017 14:31:40

Nuts Goes SImple EFI
Last post by Nuts in General Tech Advice on Dec 17, 2017 07:46:57

Mustangtech Bathurst Clubhouse...
Last post by cage in Mustang Projects on Dec 16, 2017 11:39:59

Project Brandy
Last post by cage in Mustang Projects on Dec 15, 2017 16:14:55

CJ pony parts clearance
Last post by lukep6470 in Mustang Projects on Dec 15, 2017 12:05:48

Years in the making....
Last post by MNT67 in Mustang Projects on Dec 14, 2017 22:37:11

Ronin187 - pics as promised
Last post by Ronin187 in Mustang Projects on Dec 14, 2017 20:19:27

OVER HEATING AT IDLE
Last post by 123abc in Pre 1973 on Dec 14, 2017 16:08:29

Jacko's Project
Last post by rkmiller73 in Other Projects on Dec 14, 2017 06:19:55

Mile stone (for me anyway)
Last post by MustangMedic in Events on Dec 13, 2017 06:00:53

SocialMedia

Like this page? Google +1 it!