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jbrucem1
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The front end in the stang has an extremely annoying squeek every time the front end goes up and down.the only nolathane rubbers I have are sway bar insulators and they are well greased. I think the sound is coming from the area around upper control arm/spring seat. They have no grease nipples but am sure this is the culprit. any ideas??
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Often the upper arm bushes. Normally have a right angle grease nipple though I had one car where they cut holes in the shock towers to allow access to straight nipples. I fixed that issue (among others).


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yeh i have the grease nipples for the upper arm bushes, its the spring seat that i think is more the problem. the lower rubber insulator that sits on the outer and inner of spring may also be an issue, with the inner rubber insulator missing


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99% sure its the upper swing arm bushes that need greasing up. All the old falcons up to XD squeaked untill they put rubber bushes in there. I used to soak them in crc to tempory get rid of the squeak in my XT until i finally put in grease nipples.


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I'm with Scott, more than likely the top bushes.


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Def upper arm squeak. Drown it with whatever you can get into it......preferably a good grease.


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Take the front shocks out & see if it still squeaks. It is more likely the shocks as they are constantly in bind as they do not come up in the center & have to be forced to bolt them up. It is the shaft against the seal in the shock that squeaks.

Another even quicker method is to squirt some WD40 on the shaft while they are still fitted as it will tell you if it is that spot, same as the spring perch, if WD40 stops the squeak, then it is there. Put the straw on the can so you can direct the application.


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Agree with that possibility Kerry. My 67 shocks started squeaking on the Sunday morning of the Ballarat Nats a couple of years ago.
A can of WD40 soon fixed that.
Still put my moolah on the upper arm being more noisy in this case though!
Could be both contributing!


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jbrucem1 wrote


You should have a grease fitting on both sides as the pic you posted depicts.

Taking the shocks out will confirm the location of the squeak. You can then get someone to bounce the front end while you watch the suspension & listen. If it is coming from the spring perch, then replace it.

However note the following.....

Your suspension movement on the front end with normal motoring is around 40mm of travel (say 20mm each way from center). The spring perch is in the approx center of the top A arm. It's movement is probably around 5-7mm in rotation & if the rubber bush is not flogged out (leaving metal to metal contact) then it is hardly likely to be the squeak.

However the shock rod is going at least half the movement of the suspension (IE; 20mm in normal travel) & is always moving in that area promoting further polishing of the shaft & seal in that spot. I have replaced countless Ford/Mustang front shocks because of this issue. They are constantly in "bind" as when you bolt them up you have to push the top to get it to line up with the top shock mount.

The big fix is to fit a mono ball to the spring perch so it centers the spring/shock. Also a shock with a mono ball at each end solves the issue as well. But that is modifying, so will not work on a car that is shown as stock.


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mine had a squeaky front end, every time it moved up and down. Was told to squirt some of the milky silicon based tyre shine around the rubber bushings. No squeaks since then. Could be something to try.


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I went all out & decided to replace both upper & lower control arms & new spring perches. Every now & again , my RH spring perch has a little squeak (even though it is brand new) but usually only after washing or a driving through a little rain.


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Kerry's point that the Shock being a possible cause is a good point.
They do have sideways load and hence some side rubbing on the shaft (something I never liked but simply accepted as the way it is) is a likely candidate - advantage is it is easy to test it. If it is the spring perch then definitely replace with a new one.


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relief!!
fitted rear grease nipples and greased, still squeek. undid shocks to rukle that out, ruled out..
took weight off front end, started going nuts with wd40 on LHS and regreased while weight off.

squeek gone from LHS!!!

weight off RHS and re-greased, squeek gone.

The solution was better greasing technique/sufficient grease..
Thanks to all for advice!! all front end is new and thus must have just needed more grease


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Great to hear problem solved. I hate chasing squeaks.
I was chasing a front end squeak in mine which would only appear whilst driving. Took me two weeks to find it. Turned out to be the bonnet locking pin and latch not having any grease. Still shaking my head on that one.


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