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Good sump, the gated diamond baffle is very effective as a road race sump. The non dry sump T/A cars use this basic design.


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Nice sump. I always ran the bosch 044 on my skylines, a great pump. As you said though, you need the geniune ones. I was stung by a non genuine one which failed very quickly....so many fakes these days. What lift pump are you using?


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Shaunp wrote
Good sump, the gated diamond baffle is very effective as a road race sump. The non dry sump T/A cars use this basic design.


Yeah im pretty impressed with it in design and quality. Ticks all the boxes.



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Nice sump. I always ran the bosch 044 on my skylines, a great pump. As you said though, you need the geniune ones. I was stung by a non genuine one which failed very quickly....so many fakes these days. What lift pump are you using?


Genuine Bosch all the way mate.. injectors and pump and not one problem with either in last 5 years...

lift pump, which is just a holley blue cause thats what I had when the car was carb'd.. its not as noisey, well i dont think so, as ppl make out. Yes i can hear it on startup but with the exhaust you can barely tell its there.. but its not obnoxious. .perhaps the mounting position and rubber mounts have alot to do with it. Can hear it in the cabin but more so background noise. I do like hearing it going. I do have a factory oem bosch pump i was going tobuse a while ago for more pressure intonthe surge tank but the holley works well. When it dies ill look at alternative non diaphram lift pump.

LEDS cover power at the pump for troubleshooting but there can be power and a dead pump. Thats where fuel pressure would be a better indication. . Thats next anyway. Waiting on a fuel pressure switch in the mail so i can log that..and see it in shadowdash .


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Hi,

I hate to be a stick in the mud but I am not sure that sump will clear the 4 bolt mains on the Dart block. There needs to be a sizeable notch on the 4th bearing from the front on the left hand side looking from the front. You might want to check that now in case you need to return it.


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lukep6470 wrote
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I hate to be a stick in the mud but I am not sure that sump will clear the 4 bolt mains on the Dart block. There needs to be a sizeable notch on the 4th bearing from the front on the left hand side looking from the front. You might want to check that now in case you need to return it.


Hey mate

Thanks yeah I checked that before i bought it..says it clears all 4bolt mains. Too late to return now anyway got it a few months ago and opened it up already.

Im sure i test fitted it on the block and was ok unless im missing something.



I know someone else running same style pan ut for a 4bolt 351w dartblock with no issues. Ill double check with Moroso.

Worst case ill have a word to Moroso about it considering their spec says it will clear.


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Hi,

It must be ok as if it isn't it wouldn't even touch the surface of the block it needs to bolt to!!!


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lukep6470 wrote
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It must be ok as if it isn't it wouldn't even touch the surface of the block it needs to bolt to!!!


Thats what I thought but you had me questioning as i know sometimes specs can be wrong and perhaps i didnt take into account something as this is my first bottom end build. I will check again tnight. But i shot off an email to moroso anyway for backup.


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Ok double checked and oil pan fits fine on the block. Heres a pic that shows perhaps how it clears the caps.



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Good stuff. I like shiny [that fits].

Since we are in the warning mood, often you need to modify the block or engine mounts as the fatter cylinders cast into the block can stop engine mount from lining up the bolt holes. If you are in this case grind a little away from the mounts.


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Yes I had to do that as there is webbing on the dart block that lines up with the engine mount holes. Dart don't machine the webbing back far enough for a stock mount to fit (found this out mid engine swap).

Just grind the webbing off a bit more after the motor is assembled so metal can't get in.


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I think Boof suggests grinding off the mounts itself rather than the block. That would be my call too.


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Yep already noted. My engine mounts are pretty thick steel so id be more inclined to grind or notch those to suit than the block


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Get an engine plate & you dont have to worry about it. It does create a few other problems though...


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