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Mustang Technical Discussion > Pre 1973 > 3 point seatbelts again ( sorry !! ) > Community Forums > Mustang Forum Australia - Mustang Tech

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goldscode
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OK, so after too many months waiting for the three point seatbelts to finally arrive l now want to know what you guys would suggest, they are for the 66 convertible, l would like to hide the retractors behind the side panel and slot it so the belt can run up to the turn buckle thingy that sits just behind your shoulder, l would imagine the issues are that specific mounting points need to be welded in, and the height of the turn buckle thingy doesnt foul the window crank, what l would like is suggestions so l can nut this out then use my install as a Mustang Tech Build Guide, kind of a documented step by step, The belts are the same light blue as the interior and are from Hemco Industries and carry Australian standards, so this weekend l will take out the rear seat and side panels and take photos to establish the starting point!!

So start the suggestions rolling in!!

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Here's my shoulder mounting points in a '67 fastback. Just had to pay attention to where I could weld in a plate to support my little weird homemade structure & go through the interior trim panel where I wanted to see it.




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So your little home made stucture is a nut welded to a plate then bent up to suit??? Then positioned to suit the fastback,


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yep , spot on. I welded a large 3mm plate , cut to suit framework of B-pillar. Then bent up some 6mm to a horse shoe sort of shape. Welded a nut to the back side & then almost boxed it in front & back. Just left a little gap to spray in some crickets piss in the future to release bolt ( but I did use never seize on bolt so it shouldn't ever give any problems undoing it).
Then welded that assembly to the 3mm plate. Engineer said it was overkill but it has to save my life , not his.


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Mark, did you just weld the 3mm plate to the suface of the B-pillar i.e. no cutting of pillar?

Looks like a pretty simply way to go.

No paint problems with heat from a weld that long?


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Hey overkills cool with me!! as l said will pull out the panels and see how that applies to the 66, so now l need to find an engineer to be able to pass off on this as it then becomes a modification ???


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i have my 67 vert inner panels exposed , and will be mounting the retractor similar to my Fastback. There is a 12mm hole at the top of the convertible B Pillar that would be used for the top mount, and looks as if a std seat belt mounting plate can be pulled up there with string from the bottom easily enough. I will be slotting the inner trim aswell but my car came with them missing and new ones are on there way from the US , so untill they get here i wont know anymore.

66Fastback , top mount has since been moved right to the top btw.

Same area on the 67 Vert


Now that ive looked that hole hangs it too far down , i would prefer it at the top as in the second pic below.




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Is it now mandatory to fit lap/sash seatbelts to all cars that are yet to be licenced in WA?


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So are you saying backing plates and no welding ??? lf so would the plates need to be tapped or drilled and nylocked??
thanks Ralph


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scott66stang wrote
i have my 67 vert inner panels exposed , and will be mounting the retractor similar to my Fastback. There is a 12mm hole at the top of the convertible B Pillar that would be used for the top mount, and looks as if a std seat belt mounting plate can be pulled up there with string from the bottom easily enough. I will be slotting the inner trim aswell but my car came with them missing and new ones are on there way from the US , so untill they get here i wont know anymore.

66Fastback , top mount has since been moved right to the top btw.

Same area on the 67 Vert


Now that ive looked that hole hangs it too far down , i would prefer it at the top as in the second pic below.

No mate higher right in the corner.

No mate put it in the corner where the dent is and run the strap iron back down to the window winder


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Use some 1/8 x 2" strap and run it from the dent in the panel diagonally to the winder hole and fully weld it. The nut will sit the the depression in the panel.


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Yeah shaun that was actually what i was thinking , its just that the belt i have there from the rear seats of the fairlane have a long top mount and a shape to it that wont fit in the dent. And also because i havent seen the car trim complete, i was unsure what the dent is for. It was just a quick grab the camera and photo shoot while i am babysitting. LOL!


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66 Fastback Fairstang Project www.mustangtech.com.au...art=0.html
67 convertibuild project www.mustangtech.com.au...art=0.html
Thought Collecting Couch www.mustangtech.com.au...=1739.html
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Shaunp wrote
Use some 1/8 x 2" strap and run it from the dent in the panel diagonally to the winder hole and fully weld it. The nut will sit the the depression in the panel.
sounds good to me Shaun Thumbs Up


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66 Fastback Fairstang Project www.mustangtech.com.au...art=0.html
67 convertibuild project www.mustangtech.com.au...art=0.html
Thought Collecting Couch www.mustangtech.com.au...=1739.html
Caddy Wacked www.mustangtech.com.au...art=0.html

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and then just a bush/distance piece up to the hole in the trim


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rock66 wrote
Is it now mandatory to fit lap/sash seatbelts to all cars that are yet to be licenced in WA?


No Rohan, it is a rumour though.
Frank put the old 65 Sprint over the pits 2 weeks ago and there was no mention of it.
Just fitted the to a 65 F/B for a customer though. His car is registered, he just wants the added security.
I am putting the plates in the 67 just in case, as its easy to do with the car in bits.
cheers


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