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i happen to be in in the business if knowing cars values and i supplied the studios with the cars that were turned into eleanors for the movie.



Were you quoting the article when you said this?

Reason I ask is I was the link to TCP having their suspensions in those cars. Ray Clariage of CVS saw Mrsozbilt's RHD Mach at a show at Knotts Berry Farm. We talked about RHD conversions & suspension in general. A TCP complete front end was fitted a couple of weeks later to a test car & then more sets were sent down when they liked it.



hi, unfortunately i don't quite understand your question.

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It looks like you said you supplied the Gone in 60 Seconds movie cars. Is that correct?

I could read it 2 ways, the other way was you were quoting someone else ........ šŸ˜„


i sold 5 running driving fastbacks to ray for him to modfiy into eleanors

also, since chip foose was one of the designers of the car, i would think that he would have mentioned to ray about upgrading the suspension with tcp or global west etc but i didnt ask ray about any of that, however its not like ray knew nothing about modifying suspension since he had done a lot of that, but maybe he wasnt familiar with tcp at that time.


did you work at tcp or sell the suspension parts to ray?

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jarbergers wrote
ozbilt wrote
jarbergers wrote
ozbilt wrote
jarbergers wrote
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i happen to be in in the business if knowing cars values and i supplied the studios with the cars that were turned into eleanors for the movie.



Were you quoting the article when you said this?

Reason I ask is I was the link to TCP having their suspensions in those cars. Ray Clariage of CVS saw Mrsozbilt's RHD Mach at a show at Knotts Berry Farm. We talked about RHD conversions & suspension in general. A TCP complete front end was fitted a couple of weeks later to a test car & then more sets were sent down when they liked it.



hi, unfortunately i don't quite understand your question.

.


It looks like you said you supplied the Gone in 60 Seconds movie cars. Is that correct?

I could read it 2 ways, the other way was you were quoting someone else ........ šŸ˜„


i sold 5 running driving fastbacks to ray for him to modfiy into eleanors

also, since chip foose was one of the designers of the car, i would think that he would have mentioned to ray about upgrading the suspension with tcp or global west etc but i didnt ask ray about any of that, however its not like ray knew nothing about modifying suspension since he had done a lot of that, but maybe he wasnt familiar with tcp at that time.


did you work at tcp or sell the suspension parts to ray?

.
.


Ray wanted to know about converting to RHD. Carol's (Mrsozbilt) 69 Mach was RHD in California, something different when at a show ..... šŸ˜„ I had built it in Australia & then taken it back to CA when we moved there in 96.

That was before he knew that Nicholas Cage could drive a bit. I was consulting to TCP as my great friend (now passed, RIP) was the money behind them. TCP at the time were making steering & suspension products with no understanding on what was needed or how it works in an early car.

Ray just was not familiar with TCP & I think he liked the idea that it was a "complete" setup rather than the bits & pieces that was around at the time.

I got TCP into the RHD stuff as back then all cars had to be converted here, so there was a market for the r&p. When TCP got into financial trouble, I looked at taking over. However the IRS was involved & I did not know what liabilities I would incur buying them out. It was a dead duck when Alston bought it & he did a lot of improving to where it is today. Reality it was never a stand alone business, you need too many people to create all the product, so it was a great fit for Alston as he has a huge shop making all sorts of go fast stuff.


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ozbilt wrote
jarbergers wrote
ozbilt wrote
jarbergers wrote
ozbilt wrote
jarbergers wrote
.

i happen to be in in the business if knowing cars values and i supplied the studios with the cars that were turned into eleanors for the movie.



Were you quoting the article when you said this?

Reason I ask is I was the link to TCP having their suspensions in those cars. Ray Clariage of CVS saw Mrsozbilt's RHD Mach at a show at Knotts Berry Farm. We talked about RHD conversions & suspension in general. A TCP complete front end was fitted a couple of weeks later to a test car & then more sets were sent down when they liked it.



hi, unfortunately i don't quite understand your question.

.


It looks like you said you supplied the Gone in 60 Seconds movie cars. Is that correct?

I could read it 2 ways, the other way was you were quoting someone else ........ šŸ˜„


i sold 5 running driving fastbacks to ray for him to modfiy into eleanors

also, since chip foose was one of the designers of the car, i would think that he would have mentioned to ray about upgrading the suspension with tcp or global west etc but i didnt ask ray about any of that, however its not like ray knew nothing about modifying suspension since he had done a lot of that, but maybe he wasnt familiar with tcp at that time.


did you work at tcp or sell the suspension parts to ray?

.
.


Ray wanted to know about converting to RHD. Carol's (Mrsozbilt) 69 Mach was RHD in California, something different when at a show ..... šŸ˜„ I had built it in Australia & then taken it back to CA when we moved there in 96.

That was before he knew that Nicholas Cage could drive a bit. I was consulting to TCP as my great friend (now passed, RIP) was the money behind them. TCP at the time were making steering & suspension products with no understanding on what was needed or how it works in an early car.

Ray just was not familiar with TCP & I think he liked the idea that it was a "complete" setup rather than the bits & pieces that was around at the time.

I got TCP into the RHD stuff as back then all cars had to be converted here, so there was a market for the r&p. When TCP got into financial trouble, I looked at taking over. However the IRS was involved & I did not know what liabilities I would incur buying them out. It was a dead duck when Alston bought it & he did a lot of improving to where it is today. Reality it was never a stand alone business, you need too many people to create all the product, so it was a great fit for Alston as he has a huge shop making all sorts of go fast stuff.


very cool, xlnt story . . if you were around orange county, you may have also heard of mustangs and american classics .


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jarbergers wrote
ozbilt wrote
jarbergers wrote
ozbilt wrote
jarbergers wrote
ozbilt wrote
jarbergers wrote
.

i happen to be in in the business if knowing cars values and i supplied the studios with the cars that were turned into eleanors for the movie.



Were you quoting the article when you said this?

Reason I ask is I was the link to TCP having their suspensions in those cars. Ray Clariage of CVS saw Mrsozbilt's RHD Mach at a show at Knotts Berry Farm. We talked about RHD conversions & suspension in general. A TCP complete front end was fitted a couple of weeks later to a test car & then more sets were sent down when they liked it.



hi, unfortunately i don't quite understand your question.

.


It looks like you said you supplied the Gone in 60 Seconds movie cars. Is that correct?

I could read it 2 ways, the other way was you were quoting someone else ........ šŸ˜„


i sold 5 running driving fastbacks to ray for him to modfiy into eleanors

also, since chip foose was one of the designers of the car, i would think that he would have mentioned to ray about upgrading the suspension with tcp or global west etc but i didnt ask ray about any of that, however its not like ray knew nothing about modifying suspension since he had done a lot of that, but maybe he wasnt familiar with tcp at that time.


did you work at tcp or sell the suspension parts to ray?

.
.


Ray wanted to know about converting to RHD. Carol's (Mrsozbilt) 69 Mach was RHD in California, something different when at a show ..... šŸ˜„ I had built it in Australia & then taken it back to CA when we moved there in 96.

That was before he knew that Nicholas Cage could drive a bit. I was consulting to TCP as my great friend (now passed, RIP) was the money behind them. TCP at the time were making steering & suspension products with no understanding on what was needed or how it works in an early car.

Ray just was not familiar with TCP & I think he liked the idea that it was a "complete" setup rather than the bits & pieces that was around at the time.

I got TCP into the RHD stuff as back then all cars had to be converted here, so there was a market for the r&p. When TCP got into financial trouble, I looked at taking over. However the IRS was involved & I did not know what liabilities I would incur buying them out. It was a dead duck when Alston bought it & he did a lot of improving to where it is today. Reality it was never a stand alone business, you need too many people to create all the product, so it was a great fit for Alston as he has a huge shop making all sorts of go fast stuff.


very cool, xlnt story . . if you were around orange county, you may have head of mustangs and american classics .


Never heard of them. I was based in Sacramento, daughter still lives there & Mrsozbilt still spends 6 months a year over there.


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ozbilt wrote
jarbergers wrote
ozbilt wrote
jarbergers wrote
ozbilt wrote
jarbergers wrote
ozbilt wrote
jarbergers wrote
.

i happen to be in in the business if knowing cars values and i supplied the studios with the cars that were turned into eleanors for the movie.



Were you quoting the article when you said this?

Reason I ask is I was the link to TCP having their suspensions in those cars. Ray Clariage of CVS saw Mrsozbilt's RHD Mach at a show at Knotts Berry Farm. We talked about RHD conversions & suspension in general. A TCP complete front end was fitted a couple of weeks later to a test car & then more sets were sent down when they liked it.



hi, unfortunately i don't quite understand your question.

.


It looks like you said you supplied the Gone in 60 Seconds movie cars. Is that correct?

I could read it 2 ways, the other way was you were quoting someone else ........ šŸ˜„


i sold 5 running driving fastbacks to ray for him to modfiy into eleanors

also, since chip foose was one of the designers of the car, i would think that he would have mentioned to ray about upgrading the suspension with tcp or global west etc but i didnt ask ray about any of that, however its not like ray knew nothing about modifying suspension since he had done a lot of that, but maybe he wasnt familiar with tcp at that time.


did you work at tcp or sell the suspension parts to ray?

.
.


Ray wanted to know about converting to RHD. Carol's (Mrsozbilt) 69 Mach was RHD in California, something different when at a show ..... šŸ˜„ I had built it in Australia & then taken it back to CA when we moved there in 96.

That was before he knew that Nicholas Cage could drive a bit. I was consulting to TCP as my great friend (now passed, RIP) was the money behind them. TCP at the time were making steering & suspension products with no understanding on what was needed or how it works in an early car.

Ray just was not familiar with TCP & I think he liked the idea that it was a "complete" setup rather than the bits & pieces that was around at the time.

I got TCP into the RHD stuff as back then all cars had to be converted here, so there was a market for the r&p. When TCP got into financial trouble, I looked at taking over. However the IRS was involved & I did not know what liabilities I would incur buying them out. It was a dead duck when Alston bought it & he did a lot of improving to where it is today. Reality it was never a stand alone business, you need too many people to create all the product, so it was a great fit for Alston as he has a huge shop making all sorts of go fast stuff.


very cool, xlnt story . . if you were around orange county, you may have head of mustangs and american classics .


Never heard of them. I was based in Sacramento, daughter still lives there & Mrsozbilt still spends 6 months a year over there.


it was one of the biggest mustang shops in the western us.

rays partner came by the shop one day when he was in the area looking at a 68 fastback . . he asked us if we knew were for any fastbacks were because they needed several for the movie asap so i told him i would look around and call him if i found any because buying. repairing and selling mustangs as well as other muscle cars was my business . . so i checked the newspaper and recycler etc everyday and by some miracle, i found them 5 cars in less than 6 or 8 weeks.

i drove the last car up there and ray gave me a tour and showed me the first and only eleanr thy had at the time and was so happy i found the cars so fast that he even offered to give me a free eleanor kit which i turned down because i thought the car was ugly and that no one would buy a fastback that had been butchered like that . . i could have had the car built before the movie came out and had the first authentic eleanor for sale in the world . . obviously, not one of my better moves, lol.

ray would also go to several of the same classic car auctions i went to like mccormacks in palm springs and barrett jackson etc so id talk to him when i saw him at those.

i was right next to the first eleanor he sold at barrett. when it went across the block and was shocked at the price.

i actually sold a lot of cars to oz and one of them which was an all orig 1969 black 428 r code which won some big show they have there several years ago.


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he even offered to give me a free eleanor kit which i turned down because i though the car was ugly and that no one would by a fastback that had been butchered lile that . .


You'll fit right in around here Laughing


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he even offered to give me a free eleanor kit which i turned down because i though the car was ugly and that no one would by a fastback that had been butchered lile that . .


You'll fit right in around here Laughing


Took the words right out of my mouth .......


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My shop was not a Mustang shop, did many, but most of my work was hot rods & pre & post WWII MG's. I knew of Monroe via Karl from Mustang Country (who was out here for 3 months at BossKraft & flew back to LA on Sunday).


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My shop was not a Mustang shop, did many, but most of my work was hot rods & pre & post WWII MG's. I knew of Monroe via Karl from Mustang Country (who was out here for 3 months at BossKraft & flew back to LA on Sunday).


small world . . karl bought the business from don and ailene chambers . . don and her had several ultra rare cars . . a couple were prototypes . . lots of people knew don . . i knew him for probably 30 years . . i bought a 70 boss 302 and a 71 429 cougar convertible from them . . i think they only made 6 of those cougars . . a mexican kid owned it and needed money one day so he drove it over to dons shop nd sild it to him . . i think he pad a whopping $6500.00 for it . . i paid a little more than that, lol.

i saw him maybe 3 days before he passed away . . he was walking and talking like there was nothing wrong with him, it was horrible what happened to him.

monroe was the owner of the second version of mustangs west . . i combined part of my business with his . . he did repairs and full high end restos . . our friend owns the paint shop that painted the orange and the blue lead cars for the fast and furious movies and he would paint our cars.

most everyone in the mustang biz in so calif knows each other because we have all been in it so long.


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on your transmission, i would at least consider ordering the modified shift finger . . it is only around $20.00 in the us and it is easy to install . . the main case does not have to come apart to install it . . this will eliminate any possibility of the stock one causing a problem with the shift from second to third . . even the mfg had started polishing this finger because they knew there was a problem with them.

if modern driveline doesnt have them, you can get them from liberty transmission or hanlon racing . . liberty is probably the biggest tko dealer in the world and hanlon builds them for pro racing.


ask for dave

www.libertysgears.com/


ask for bob hanlon

hanlonmotorsports.com/


Mal in oz may also have the part.

www.malwoodauto.com.au/
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i saw you mention possibly getting a stroker kit.

if you drive it a lot, i would probably get the 416 ci kit.

if you only drive it on weekends etc and want stupid power, i would get the 432 ci kit.

the cost is the same for either kit . . you dont need a forged crank uness you drag race it.

you can usually have summit swap for different pistons if you need a different compression ratio.

i would use mahle pistons . . they are made from low expansion material and have a graphite coating on them so you can run them with a tight clearance . . they are the only piton ford racing uses in their crate engines and they warranty their engines for 2 years or 24,000 us miles. . . my other preference are the je srp pistons . . im not a fan of the probe srs pistons because they are the high expansion type.

summit gives free shipping in the us . . i saw you had a car there that was goin to be shipped . . you could ship the kit with the car.

there is also a place in oz that sells the kits for around $3000.00 . dont know if thats usd or oz dollars.

www.summitracing.com/s...ing%20kits


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jarbergers wrote
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My shop was not a Mustang shop, did many, but most of my work was hot rods & pre & post WWII MG's. I knew of Monroe via Karl from Mustang Country (who was out here for 3 months at BossKraft & flew back to LA on Sunday).


small world . . karl bought the business from don and ailene chambers . . don and her had several ultra rare cars . . a couple were prototypes . . lots of people knew don . . i knew him for probably 30 years . . i bought a 70 boss 302 and a 71 429 cougar convertible from them . . i think they only made 6 of those cougars . . a mexican kid owned it and needed money one day so he drove it over to dons shop nd sild it to him . . i think he pad a whopping $6500.00 for it . . i paid a little more than that, lol.

i saw him maybe 3 days before he passed away . . he was walking and talking like there was nothing wrong with him, it was horrible what happened to him.

monroe was the owner of the second version of mustangs west . . i combined part of my business with his . . he did repairs and full high end restos . . our friend owns the paint shop that painted the orange and the blue lead cars for the fast and furious movies and he would paint our cars.

most everyone in the mustang biz in so calif knows each other because we have all been in it so long.


Karl did not buy MCI, he is still helping Ailene sell the collection. Karl is a member here (he is the member that joined before you did "Isellfn" ) ........ šŸ˜„


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ozbilt wrote
jarbergers wrote
ozbilt wrote
My shop was not a Mustang shop, did many, but most of my work was hot rods & pre & post WWII MG's. I knew of Monroe via Karl from Mustang Country (who was out here for 3 months at BossKraft & flew back to LA on Sunday).


small world . . karl bought the business from don and ailene chambers . . don and her had several ultra rare cars . . a couple were prototypes . . lots of people knew don . . i knew him for probably 30 years . . i bought a 70 boss 302 and a 71 429 cougar convertible from them . . i think they only made 6 of those cougars . . a mexican kid owned it and needed money one day so he drove it over to dons shop nd sild it to him . . i think he pad a whopping $6500.00 for it . . i paid a little more than that, lol.

i saw him maybe 3 days before he passed away . . he was walking and talking like there was nothing wrong with him, it was horrible what happened to him.

monroe was the owner of the second version of mustangs west . . i combined part of my business with his . . he did repairs and full high end restos . . our friend owns the paint shop that painted the orange and the blue lead cars for the fast and furious movies and he would paint our cars.

most everyone in the mustang biz in so calif knows each other because we have all been in it so long.


Karl did not buy MCI, he is still helping Ailene sell the collection. Karl is a member here (he is the member that joined before you did "Isellfn" ) ........ šŸ˜„



ok im confused but thats no surprise . . so don and ailene never sold it, they just hired people to run the parts business?


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jarbergers wrote
ozbilt wrote
jarbergers wrote
ozbilt wrote
My shop was not a Mustang shop, did many, but most of my work was hot rods & pre & post WWII MG's. I knew of Monroe via Karl from Mustang Country (who was out here for 3 months at BossKraft & flew back to LA on Sunday).


small world . . karl bought the business from don and ailene chambers . . don and her had several ultra rare cars . . a couple were prototypes . . lots of people knew don . . i knew him for probably 30 years . . i bought a 70 boss 302 and a 71 429 cougar convertible from them . . i think they only made 6 of those cougars . . a mexican kid owned it and needed money one day so he drove it over to dons shop nd sild it to him . . i think he pad a whopping $6500.00 for it . . i paid a little more than that, lol.

i saw him maybe 3 days before he passed away . . he was walking and talking like there was nothing wrong with him, it was horrible what happened to him.

monroe was the owner of the second version of mustangs west . . i combined part of my business with his . . he did repairs and full high end restos . . our friend owns the paint shop that painted the orange and the blue lead cars for the fast and furious movies and he would paint our cars.

most everyone in the mustang biz in so calif knows each other because we have all been in it so long.


Karl did not buy MCI, he is still helping Ailene sell the collection. Karl is a member here (he is the member that joined before you did "Isellfn" ) ........ šŸ˜„



ok im confused but thats no surprise . . so don and ailene never sold it, they just hired people to run the parts business?


No, they sold the parts business a few years before Don passed. Allan Cohn bought it.

Enough of this as it was not a good time for me & so making me more depressed than I already am. So Cal wankers living in their own world thinking that the sun revolved around them, I taught them that you do not take a knife to a gunfight.


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